circuit_breaker

Hi,

Someone dropped an UltraSparc Driven box in my office with 2 CDs. On
one I found Solaris 2.5.1 (SunOS 5.5.1 - 1996 -) and I installed it.
Now, I'd like to know how to upgrade it to a "decent" version. The
box is equipped with a whooping 200mhz cpu.

Thanks.

Rich Teer

On Tue, 13 Apr 2004, circuit_breaker wrote:

> Someone dropped an UltraSparc Driven box in my office with 2 CDs. On
> one I found Solaris 2.5.1 (SunOS 5.5.1 - 1996 -) and I installed it.
> Now, I'd like to know how to upgrade it to a "decent" version. The
> box is equipped with a whooping 200mhz cpu.

Go to www.sun.com/software, and download the latest version of
Solaris 9. BTW, unlike a PC of similar clock speed, that 200 MHz
Ultra 1 is still quite useful.

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Michael Laajanen

HI,

Rich Teer wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Apr 2004, circuit_breaker wrote:
>
>
>>Someone dropped an UltraSparc Driven box in my office with 2 CDs. On
>>one I found Solaris 2.5.1 (SunOS 5.5.1 - 1996 -) and I installed it.
>>Now, I'd like to know how to upgrade it to a "decent" version. The
>>box is equipped with a whooping 200mhz cpu.
>
>
> Go to www.sun.com/software, and download the latest version of
> Solaris 9. BTW, unlike a PC of similar clock speed, that 200 MHz
> Ultra 1 is still quite useful.
>

Hmm, whatabout S10, is that not also supported on a 200MHz!


/michael

Rich Teer

On Tue, 13 Apr 2004, Michael Laajanen wrote:

> Hmm, whatabout S10, is that not also supported on a 200MHz!

Unfortuntely not. All UltraSPARC-I CPUs are no longer
supported by S10, and any UltraSPARC CPU that has a clock
speed of 200 MHz or less is US-I. The slowest US-II CPU
is 250 MHz, so another way of putting it is that S10 is not
supported on any SPARC processor with a clock speed less than
250 MHz.

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Colin B.

Michael Laajanen <michael.laajanen.no-spam.@telia.com> wrote:

> Hmm, whatabout S10, is that not also supported on a 200MHz!

Can someone please explain to me the inexplicable interest in Solaris 10?
The thing isn't even into Beta testing yet. It doesn't seem to have many
new features besides zoning, which won't be that useful on an Ultra1.

I'm not out to trash Solaris 10 here, as it seems to be a really nice
refinement of Solaris 9. I just don't understand the hype--I don't
remember Solaris 9, 8, 7, or even 2.6 being this heavily anticipated.
(2.5.1 was a special circumstance--man, did I want that to be released!)

Any ideas folks? Is it just the Linux mentality, complete with versionitis,
invading?

Colin

Dan Espen

"Colin B." <cbigam@somewhereelse.nucleus.com> writes:

> Michael Laajanen <michael.laajanen.no-spam.@telia.com> wrote:
>
>> Hmm, whatabout S10, is that not also supported on a 200MHz!
>
> Can someone please explain to me the inexplicable interest in Solaris 10?
> The thing isn't even into Beta testing yet. It doesn't seem to have many
> new features besides zoning, which won't be that useful on an Ultra1.
>
> I'm not out to trash Solaris 10 here, as it seems to be a really nice
> refinement of Solaris 9. I just don't understand the hype--I don't
> remember Solaris 9, 8, 7, or even 2.6 being this heavily anticipated.
> (2.5.1 was a special circumstance--man, did I want that to be released!)
>
> Any ideas folks? Is it just the Linux mentality, complete with versionitis,
> invading?

I've gotten the same impression about people anticipating S10,
but I don't subscribe to the theory that all things evil originate
with Linux.

Logan Shaw

Colin B. wrote:

> Michael Laajanen <michael.laajanen.no-spam.@telia.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Hmm, whatabout S10, is that not also supported on a 200MHz!
>
>
> Can someone please explain to me the inexplicable interest in Solaris 10?

I'm only half joking when I say that it is probably partly because
10 is a nice round number. Basically the same sort of effect that
caused people to go nuts on the 1999->2000 transition but to not
really care much at all when the new millenium actually started
at the 2000->2001 transition. Or the effect in pricing where
something that is priced $0.99 actually sells significantly better
than something that is priced $1.00.

Irongically, it will probably cause some minor issues when the
"uname -r" output gives 5.10 instead of 5.9, because we all
know that the number 5.10 is less than the number 5.9. And the
string "5.10" comes before the string "5.9" lexicographically
(and after the string "5.1").

- Logan

Another Tom

Rich Teer wrote:

> On Tue, 13 Apr 2004, Michael Laajanen wrote:
>
>> Hmm, whatabout S10, is that not also supported on a 200MHz!
>
> Unfortuntely not. All UltraSPARC-I CPUs are no longer
> supported by S10, and any UltraSPARC CPU that has a clock
> speed of 200 MHz or less is US-I. The slowest US-II CPU
> is 250 MHz, so another way of putting it is that S10 is not
> supported on any SPARC processor with a clock speed less than
> 250 MHz.
>

Layman's translation: "It's official, S10's and U1's are doorstops."

David Magda

Another Tom <sg7188@snet.net> writes:

> Layman's translation: "It's official, S10's and U1's are
> doorstops."

Unless you run Solaris 9, Solaris 8 or (heaven forbid) Linux or the
BSDs.

How much horsepower do you need for a home web or mail server? Let it
sit in a corner and run.

--
David Magda <dmagda at ee.ryerson.ca>, http://www.magda.ca/
Because the innovator has for enemies all those who have done well under
the old conditions, and lukewarm defenders in those who may do well
under the new. -- Niccolo Machiavelli, _The Prince_, Chapter VI

Alan Coopersmith

"Colin B." <cbigam@somewhereelse.nucleus.com> writes in comp.unix.solaris:
|Can someone please explain to me the inexplicable interest in Solaris 10?
|The thing isn't even into Beta testing yet.

Actually, Solaris 10 Beta 2 was released last week. (The same bits
were released this week as Solaris Express 4/04, so everyone has access
to them.)

|It doesn't seem to have many
|new features besides zoning, which won't be that useful on an Ultra1.

Perhaps you've been reading a different list of features - have you
checked out the "Whats New in Solaris 10 Beta 2" on docs.sun.com?
http://docs.sun.com/db/doc/817-0547/6mgbdbsmc?a=view (I personally
find dtrace much more interesting than zones, but then I'm a developer
who can use dtrace for debugging, not a sysadmin trying to deal with
the problems zones are trying to solve.)

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Bruno Saverio Delbono

Colin B. wrote:

> Can someone please explain to me the inexplicable interest in Solaris 10?

- Serious kick ass performance vs. older Solaris releases
- The SolarisTM Zones software partitioning technology is a key feature
available in the Solaris 10 Beta releases.
- DTrace dynamic tracing facility, process rights management, and a new
architecture for network stacks. DTrace is a comprehensive dynamic
tracing facility that gives Solaris users, administrators, and
developers a new level of observability into the kernel and user processes.
- In the Solaris software, processes that previously required superuser
capabilities now require process rights. Process rights management uses
privileges to restrict processes to only those rights that are required
to perform the task.
- Also of particular importance, the networking stack for TCP
connections has been rearchitected to deliver extremely high performance
while improving the scalability.

- Upcoming ZFS

Also see: http://docs.sun.com/db/doc/817-0547/6mgbdbsmu?a=view
http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/cgi/xper... n=questions#1

> The thing isn't even into Beta testing yet. It doesn't seem to have many
> new features besides zoning, which won't be that useful on an Ultra1.

Beta 2 was released last week. I know it sounds like hype more than
anything else, but Solaris 10 is really a big improvement over the older
releases.



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