Coolwater0009

What do you say? Palm has not released a new wireless unit since the i705.

John

Jeffrey Kaplan

Previously on alt.comp.sys.palmtops.pilot, Coolwater0009 said:

; What do you say? Palm has not released a new wireless unit since the i705.

Why should they release another 7something when a SmartPhone will do
all that and more, and PalmOne does smartphones now, too. I have four
pqas on my Kyocera 7135 smartphone: MapQuest, Moviefone, Verizon
Superpages and the Weather Channel.

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Ben Combee

Coolwater0009 wrote:
> What do you say? Palm has not released a new wireless unit since the i705.

They released the Tungsten W (GSM/GPRS), Tungsten T series (Bluetooth),
Tungsten C (WiFi), Zire 72 (Bluetooth), and with the merger with
Handspring, you can count the four wireless Treo models (CDMA,
GSM/GPRS). Wireless isn't dead, it's just devices that use the
very-expensive Mobitex network like the i705 and VIIx that are dead.

INetLib was done to provide an interface to Palm.net's proxies using the
Mobitex network. They hacked in a layer that worked through NetLib in
the version for Palm OS 3.5, but it still relied on there being a proxy
service in the middle. It also had a very complex, underdocumented
interface and a lot of bad error conditions that were hard to program
around.

Web Clipping was built around INetLib. While, IMO, it would be possible
to reimplement web clipping on NetLib pretty easily, Palm decided to go
with conventional web browser technology with device-side caching,
rather than continue that technology, and that's why INetLib and Web
Clipping weren't ported to Palm OS 5.

johnw_94020@yahoo.com

So the only Palm devices that can do web clipping are the Palm VII
series and i705? I doubt the Wi-fi units can do web clipping, and
besides when I meant wireless I never meant anything like Wi-fi or
bluetooth for a number of reasons.

1) Wi-fi is limited to hotspots
2) BlueTooth is not compatible with SprintPCS at this time

With my trusty PalmVIIX I can get on the Internet almost anywhere.

What I fear is that companies will start dropping their pqa's. But
then again I realize there are hundreds of thousands of i705 and Palm
VII series users. So it may take some time.

The Palm Tugstun W is not that attractive with its tiny phone keypad.
Man I can work better with a SpringPCS phone and PalmVIIx, than using
one smartphone.

John


Ben Combee <combee@techwood.org> wrote in message news:<m3Epc.2042$H_3.646@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net>...
> Coolwater0009 wrote:
> > What do you say? Palm has not released a new wireless unit since the i705.
>
> They released the Tungsten W (GSM/GPRS), Tungsten T series (Bluetooth),
> Tungsten C (WiFi), Zire 72 (Bluetooth), and with the merger with
> Handspring, you can count the four wireless Treo models (CDMA,
> GSM/GPRS). Wireless isn't dead, it's just devices that use the
> very-expensive Mobitex network like the i705 and VIIx that are dead.
>
> INetLib was done to provide an interface to Palm.net's proxies using the
> Mobitex network. They hacked in a layer that worked through NetLib in
> the version for Palm OS 3.5, but it still relied on there being a proxy
> service in the middle. It also had a very complex, underdocumented
> interface and a lot of bad error conditions that were hard to program
> around.
>
> Web Clipping was built around INetLib. While, IMO, it would be possible
> to reimplement web clipping on NetLib pretty easily, Palm decided to go
> with conventional web browser technology with device-side caching,
> rather than continue that technology, and that's why INetLib and Web
> Clipping weren't ported to Palm OS 5.

George Fragos

Palm has an Mobile Internet Kit, software, that can be loaded into at
least up to Palm OS 3.5.3. I've used it with Palm modem and my cell
phone on an IIIxe and now on a TRGpro. Probably works on Palm OS 4 as well.

johnw_94020@yahoo.com wrote:
> So the only Palm devices that can do web clipping are the Palm VII
> series and i705? I doubt the Wi-fi units can do web clipping, and
> besides when I meant wireless I never meant anything like Wi-fi or
> bluetooth for a number of reasons.
>
> 1) Wi-fi is limited to hotspots
> 2) BlueTooth is not compatible with SprintPCS at this time
>
> With my trusty PalmVIIX I can get on the Internet almost anywhere.
>
> What I fear is that companies will start dropping their pqa's. But
> then again I realize there are hundreds of thousands of i705 and Palm
> VII series users. So it may take some time.
>
> The Palm Tugstun W is not that attractive with its tiny phone keypad.
> Man I can work better with a SpringPCS phone and PalmVIIx, than using
> one smartphone.
>
> John
>
>
> Ben Combee <combee@techwood.org> wrote in message news:<m3Epc.2042$H_3.646@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net>...
>
>>Coolwater0009 wrote:
>>
>>>What do you say? Palm has not released a new wireless unit since the i705.
>>
>>They released the Tungsten W (GSM/GPRS), Tungsten T series (Bluetooth),
>>Tungsten C (WiFi), Zire 72 (Bluetooth), and with the merger with
>>Handspring, you can count the four wireless Treo models (CDMA,
>>GSM/GPRS). Wireless isn't dead, it's just devices that use the
>>very-expensive Mobitex network like the i705 and VIIx that are dead.
>>
>>INetLib was done to provide an interface to Palm.net's proxies using the
>>Mobitex network. They hacked in a layer that worked through NetLib in
>>the version for Palm OS 3.5, but it still relied on there being a proxy
>>service in the middle. It also had a very complex, underdocumented
>>interface and a lot of bad error conditions that were hard to program
>>around.
>>
>>Web Clipping was built around INetLib. While, IMO, it would be possible
>>to reimplement web clipping on NetLib pretty easily, Palm decided to go
>>with conventional web browser technology with device-side caching,
>>rather than continue that technology, and that's why INetLib and Web
>>Clipping weren't ported to Palm OS 5.

Jeffrey Kaplan

Previously on alt.comp.sys.palmtops.pilot, johnw_94020@yahoo.com said:

; What I fear is that companies will start dropping their pqa's. But
; then again I realize there are hundreds of thousands of i705 and Palm
; VII series users. So it may take some time.

When I asked Superpages about small-format access from my PalmOS PDA,
they directed me to get their pqa. They have no other small-format
access that I know of, and their main site freezes my copy of Blazer.
Same deal with Moviefone.

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