Hello John,

Saturday, May 15, 2004, 10:20:34 AM, you wrote:

JW> in article c855in$2r8$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com, Andrew at
JW> I_dont_like_ham_@_or_spam_thanks.NOSPAM.net wrote on 5-15-04 14:22:

>> Hello Andre,
>>
>> Saturday, May 15, 2004, 1:18:50 AM, you wrote:
>>
>> A> I recently started having problems with my desktop (Both versions 4.1.2 and
>> A> 4.1.4) shutting down as soon as I start it up on my office XP Pro box. This
>> A> PC has strict group policies and non-admits are severely restricted.
>>
>> A> It took a special admin account to do the install and it worked for a short
>> A> while. No other conduits are installed on this machine, and today for no
>> A> reason it shut down again and I am unable to get it to run now.
>>
>> A> I must have had at least a dozen e-mail messages with Palm support and they
>> A> could only tell me that it must be an admin that installs it and I must
>> have
>> A> full control over the Palm folder. Well, I do but it keeps on quitting on
>> A> me.
>>
>> A> This same problem also started showing up on my home XP Pro PC. I am
>> logging
>> A> in as full Administrator with no funny group policies or any weird
>> A> restrictions.
>>
>> A> Anybody have a similar issue and hopefully a solution
>>
>> A> Thanks
>>
>> A> Andre
>>
>>
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>>
>> I had a very similar issue, the only user that could run Palm Dekstop
>> was the Admin user.
>>
>> Palm support tells me it is Window's fault. I think they are wrong
>> cause if you step back to earlier versions of the desktop, it works
>> fine with "user" accounts.
>>
>> No solution as yet either.
>>
>> --Andrew
>>
JW> The unwanted closing down is one of the symptoms of one of the recent virus?

Depends if you are referring to Windows Desktop or Palm Dekstop.

For Windows Dekstop, yes. But I think he was referring to Palm
Desktop (as I was)

--Andrew

I also disagree with Palm about the Windows issue. As I said, it happens
(Palm Desktop shuts down) on my XP Pro desktop at work that has been
restricted through user and group policies. It also started happening on my
home XP Pro desktop which has a standard install with no group policies or
user policies other then the default Admin and User rights.

If Palm can not solve this I am dropping them for good and going the Windows
based PDA route. At least they have 802.11 !

I am however still hopefully that we can solve this problem.

Thanks for any further help on this

Andre
"Andrew" <I_dont_like_ham_@_or_spam_thanks.NOSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:c85a10$5a4$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com...
> Hello John,
>
> Saturday, May 15, 2004, 10:20:34 AM, you wrote:
>
> JW> in article c855in$2r8$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com, Andrew at
> JW> I_dont_like_ham_@_or_spam_thanks.NOSPAM.net wrote on 5-15-04 14:22:
>
> >> Hello Andre,
> >>
> >> Saturday, May 15, 2004, 1:18:50 AM, you wrote:
> >>
> >> A> I recently started having problems with my desktop (Both versions
4.1.2 and
> >> A> 4.1.4) shutting down as soon as I start it up on my office XP Pro
box. This
> >> A> PC has strict group policies and non-admits are severely restricted.
> >>
> >> A> It took a special admin account to do the install and it worked for
a short
> >> A> while. No other conduits are installed on this machine, and today
for no
> >> A> reason it shut down again and I am unable to get it to run now.
> >>
> >> A> I must have had at least a dozen e-mail messages with Palm support
and they
> >> A> could only tell me that it must be an admin that installs it and I
must
> >> have
> >> A> full control over the Palm folder. Well, I do but it keeps on
quitting on
> >> A> me.
> >>
> >> A> This same problem also started showing up on my home XP Pro PC. I am
> >> logging
> >> A> in as full Administrator with no funny group policies or any weird
> >> A> restrictions.
> >>
> >> A> Anybody have a similar issue and hopefully a solution
> >>
> >> A> Thanks
> >>
> >> A> Andre
> >>
> >>
> >> A> -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =-----
> >> A> [url]http://www.newsfeeds.com[/url] - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World!
> >> A> -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =-----
> >>
> >> I had a very similar issue, the only user that could run Palm Dekstop
> >> was the Admin user.
> >>
> >> Palm support tells me it is Window's fault. I think they are wrong
> >> cause if you step back to earlier versions of the desktop, it works
> >> fine with "user" accounts.
> >>
> >> No solution as yet either.
> >>
> >> --Andrew
> >>
> JW> The unwanted closing down is one of the symptoms of one of the recent
virus?
>
> Depends if you are referring to Windows Desktop or Palm Dekstop.
>
> For Windows Dekstop, yes. But I think he was referring to Palm
> Desktop (as I was)
>
> --Andrew
>




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-----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =-----

Andre wrote:

> I also disagree with Palm about the Windows issue. As I said, it happens
> (Palm Desktop shuts down) on my XP Pro desktop at work that has been
> restricted through user and group policies. It also started happening on my
> home XP Pro desktop which has a standard install with no group policies or
> user policies other then the default Admin and User rights.
>
> If Palm can not solve this I am dropping them for good and going the Windows
> based PDA route. At least they have 802.11 !

I've seen this happen before. Did you recently install a copy of
Mozilla? Some early versions try to install an address add-in that
doesn't work on some systems and causes the desktop to fail to startup.

If you can run Regedit, look in the registry under

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\PalmSource\Desktop\Hot sync Manager

And look at the list of Notifier DLLs. One of these may be the Mozilla
notifier; if so, delete the registry key, and see if that helps you out.

BTW, aren't you the same user who was asking about 802.11b devices last
week? I posted listing the Palm OS devices with integrated wireless
(repeated here):

PalmOne Tungsten C
CLIE PEG-TH55
CLIE PEG-UX50
Alphasmart Dana Wireless

I'd appreciate you getting your facts straight.