TheOSthatMayNotBeNamed

----- Samir wrote: -----
Hello i wonder if you could help,
I have just purchased Windows XP Home edition OEM. I
have two PC's networked together in my living room and i
was wondering if i could use the same copy on both PC's
or will i have to purchase a second copy.
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Workaround: Go fetch Debian (or instantly booting from CD Knoppix) or something similar and go ahead using both systems without a second copy ;-)

regards

rob

Steve Nielsen

Boy - I can't believe I've actually read all the nearly 50 messages in
this thread! I must have too much time on my hands :)

Kurt, I don't dispute your points (in fact I tend to agree with many in
theroy) but I would like to point out that in the past Microsfot HAS
called the FBI into action to audit software licenses at one major
university that I know (U of O). Pirated (un-licensed) installations
discovered there of MS software resulted in some pretty hefty fines.
Apparently in the past anyway, software license agreements HAVE been
enforcible by legal authorities.

Just a point of interesting info.

-Steve

kurttrail wrote:

> By the act of scrolling this post on your computer, and/or printing or
> replying to this post, you agree that I am your everlasting Lord &
> Saviour. Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell for
> ever and ever! Amen!"
>
> anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com wrote:
>
>
>>Sorry there may be confusion here.. I bought WinXP from
>>Ebuyer please check the link as im not sure what version
>>that is http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?
>>action=c2VsZWN0X3Byb2R1Y3Rfb3ZlcnZpZXc=&product_ uid=50264
>>
>>Is that ok to use for two of my Pc's or not?
>>
>
>
> Only you can decide whether it's OK for you to do in the privacy of your
> home. You can get both activated, if that's what your asking.
>

Matt G.

You can refer to your OEM license agreement for a more technical explaination.

If it is a single copy OEM you may only install and operate the OS on 1 personal computer. You can always uninstall the copy from the other machine and install the copy on the other PC before using the second machine. Legally this doesn't infringe on th
e Copywrite laws. This is timely and a hassle. I recommend purchasing a legal copy of the software from an authorize microsoft reseller. You can get a discount on the OS used. A simple upgrade license is also available if you run any Microsoft operati
ng system Windows 98SE and up.

Technically, you can install the software on multiple PC's. Usually without hassle. It is against your EULA.

kurttrail

"By the act of scrolling this post on your computer, and/or printing or
replying to this post, you agree that I am your everlasting Lord & Saviour.
Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell for ever and ever!
Amen!"

Steve Nielsen wrote:

> Boy - I can't believe I've actually read all the nearly 50 messages in
> this thread! I must have too much time on my hands :)
>
> Kurt, I don't dispute your points (in fact I tend to agree with many
> in theroy) but I would like to point out that in the past Microsfot
> HAS called the FBI into action to audit software licenses at one major
> university that I know (U of O). Pirated (un-licensed) installations
> discovered there of MS software resulted in some pretty hefty fines.
> Apparently in the past anyway, software license agreements HAVE been
> enforcible by legal authorities.
>
> Just a point of interesting info.
>

Yes, but never has a retail "shrinkwrap licence," which has never been
proven to be a legal "software license." Your TV came with a shrinkwrap
license, just as almost any electronic component you own, more than likely
came with one.

A software license - is where neither party has the right to remain
anonymous from the other party, and all of the terms are known prior to any
payment, such as MS's Volume Licensed software.

A shrinkwrap license - a post-sale agreement, where an individual has every
legal right to remain anonymous from the party selling those goods, like
your TV & software.

See, one of the biggest falacies that MS spreads is that their retail
"shrinkwrap license" is also a valid "software license." There is court
precedent to back that up, yet MS presents this FUD as a legal fact.

--
Peace!
Kurt
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"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

rockinrob

As kurttail has put it...
and he has put it...
and impressively as well...
Do you think that MS can put into their EULA
That the sky is Yellow or Green before you install and use their software??
or course they can, but does that mean that they are right or They have the right
to make you agree to that?

Guess what, if the inventor of the modern day x86 processor (which basically is any computer that runs windows) put a label on the side saying that you can only use this processor with an Operating System developed by IBM, would there be a Windows operati
ng system today???

Or if Orville and Wilbur Wright used bicycle chains that were initially sold to schwinn bicycle corp for their sole use only on bikes and
not used them on their airplane.
where would we be today.
The reason that Microsoft is where they are today , is that they produced something that is widely appreciated and needed.
But ,so is appreciated and needed is the music i grew up with and first bought on Vinyl and then recorded to cassette tapes to drive around in MY car and listen to what i BOUGHT. then later BOUGHT again on CD to play in any cd player that i owned at the t
ime. not the CD player that they TOLD me i had to use.
i think that if I Made copies of my music, DVD's or any copyrighted material and then went out and sold it ....
THAT WOULD BE ILLEGAL. but using what i bought for my own personal use is covered under the constitution.
Here are a few other thoughts,
You pay for an operating sytem that has many features that are not useful for a system that is only "one" computer big.
why are there so many options and features and utilities (which are incorporated and you pay for) that are useless to a person that buys the software?
you know, Home Networking wizard and others...
I would think that is more advantageous to microsoft to offer lower priced (i mean a few bucks per additional
install of purchased/licensed product key) for same home consumer.

and by the way, how many copyright holders, lawyers or judges have just clicked "ACCEPT" without reading any other words that they just agreed to, when the EULA's pop-up when you visit WINDOWS UPDATE site.
.......Just a thought

anonymouse id10t

What I can't believe has not been mentioned in this thread thus far is the fact that you do NOT have to activate the OEM version of XP (it is optional). Since the company I work for licenses by unit count, we use the same serial keys for all XP installs
and Office products (systems are imaged/cloned). So yes, you _could_ install the OEM copy on aother system using the same key, so long as you purchase a legal license for the additional system. OEM XP itself doesn't care one way or the other and doesn't
'phone home' like the retail or home versions.
BTW, you can obtain the OEM version standalone through a University if you are a student .. unless this has changed lately?

Gary Tait

On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 07:56:28 -0800, "anonymouse id10t"
<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>What I can't believe has not been mentioned in this thread thus far is the fact that you do NOT
>have to activate the OEM version of XP (it is optional).
Not the single OEM version, it must be activated within 30 days of
installation.

> Since the company I work for licenses
>by unit count, we use the same serial keys for all XP installs and Office products (systems are
>imaged/cloned). So yes, you _could_ install the OEM copy on aother system using the same key, so
>long as you purchase a legal license for the additional system. OEM XP itself doesn't care one way
>or the other and doesn't 'phone home' like the retail or home versions.

You have what is called a volume license, whicy usuallu does not
require actvation.

Also, some OEMs use what is callled SLP, which doesn't require
activation, it ensures it is on the same system by looking at BIOS
data.

>BTW, you can obtain the OEM version standalone through a University if you are a student ..
>unless this has changed lately?

Don't confuse OEM with full retail, which I don't think there would be
Educational OEM OS licenses.

Razzaq

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