Alex

Hi everyone,

This is kind of a last ditch effort to get my health and diet back on
track. I'm almost 30, my weight is 275, male, and my cholesterol is
around 180. One problem though is my blood pressure, which stays
around 120-140/80-90.

So now the diet debate. I've had good luck on the low-carb diet,
loosing 15 pounds already this year, but I'm wanting to make a true
change in my eating habits. Even though the meats, eggs, etc are nice
and I have a good tasty variety, I'm thinking it might be better to go
with a more traditional diet (fruits, veggies, etc). I'm also hoping
to start lifting weights and plan to set-up time with a weight trainer
a few times a week.

So back to the diet question... for the 'experts' out there, for
someone who wants to do more then simply loose weight, what diet route
would you guys suggest?

As for goals, this is a long-haul diet. I want something that's not
too unrestrictive. With the carbs diet, no breads, pastas, etc, but
with the low-fat diet, I think I can maybe have a small splurge meal
every so often. Also, my longterm goals are to drop around 60-70
pounds, but I'm not expecting that anytime soon. I want to not only
get physically healthy, but feel healthy too. On the low-carbs diet,
though I do loose weight, I still feel unhealthy. But maybe it's just
me.

Comments and suggestions please.. thanks,

Alex.

JC Der Koenig

You don't have what it takes. Resign yourself to being fat and unhealthy for
the rest of your life.

--
"If I can't *count* the carbs, it can't be part of a
low-carb diet." --- jpatti


"Alex" <alex@totallynerd.com> wrote in message
news:2ba4b4eb.0403281849.6992bb41@posting.google.c om...
> Hi everyone,
>
> This is kind of a last ditch effort to get my health and diet back on
> track. I'm almost 30, my weight is 275, male, and my cholesterol is
> around 180. One problem though is my blood pressure, which stays
> around 120-140/80-90.
>
> So now the diet debate. I've had good luck on the low-carb diet,
> loosing 15 pounds already this year, but I'm wanting to make a true
> change in my eating habits. Even though the meats, eggs, etc are nice
> and I have a good tasty variety, I'm thinking it might be better to go
> with a more traditional diet (fruits, veggies, etc). I'm also hoping
> to start lifting weights and plan to set-up time with a weight trainer
> a few times a week.
>
> So back to the diet question... for the 'experts' out there, for
> someone who wants to do more then simply loose weight, what diet route
> would you guys suggest?
>
> As for goals, this is a long-haul diet. I want something that's not
> too unrestrictive. With the carbs diet, no breads, pastas, etc, but
> with the low-fat diet, I think I can maybe have a small splurge meal
> every so often. Also, my longterm goals are to drop around 60-70
> pounds, but I'm not expecting that anytime soon. I want to not only
> get physically healthy, but feel healthy too. On the low-carbs diet,
> though I do loose weight, I still feel unhealthy. But maybe it's just
> me.
>
> Comments and suggestions please.. thanks,
>
> Alex.

Luna

In article <2ba4b4eb.0403281849.6992bb41@posting.google.com >,
alex@totallynerd.com (Alex) wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> This is kind of a last ditch effort to get my health and diet back on
> track. I'm almost 30, my weight is 275, male, and my cholesterol is
> around 180. One problem though is my blood pressure, which stays
> around 120-140/80-90.
>
> So now the diet debate. I've had good luck on the low-carb diet,
> loosing 15 pounds already this year, but I'm wanting to make a true
> change in my eating habits. Even though the meats, eggs, etc are nice
> and I have a good tasty variety, I'm thinking it might be better to go
> with a more traditional diet (fruits, veggies, etc). I'm also hoping
> to start lifting weights and plan to set-up time with a weight trainer
> a few times a week.
>
> So back to the diet question... for the 'experts' out there, for
> someone who wants to do more then simply loose weight, what diet route
> would you guys suggest?
>
> As for goals, this is a long-haul diet. I want something that's not
> too unrestrictive. With the carbs diet, no breads, pastas, etc, but
> with the low-fat diet, I think I can maybe have a small splurge meal
> every so often. Also, my longterm goals are to drop around 60-70
> pounds, but I'm not expecting that anytime soon. I want to not only
> get physically healthy, but feel healthy too. On the low-carbs diet,
> though I do loose weight, I still feel unhealthy. But maybe it's just
> me.
>
> Comments and suggestions please.. thanks,
>
> Alex.

There was an article in Discovery Magazine in the last few months, wish I
could remember the author! He was some sort of diet or health expert.
Anyway, his article was about what we should eat to be healthy, and I seem
to remember he stressed a low glycemic load diet (glycemic load was
basically the glycemic index with portion size taken into account) and
mostly healthy fats like in fish and olives. It looked like a very
balanced, healthy diet to me. If anyone has details about it, please post
because that is the sort of eating plan I want to follow when I hit
maintenance. Oh, btw, I think you can lose weight on any eating plan if
you limit calories, I'm just following a low-carb plan because it is the
easiest way I've found to limit calories without being hungry. YMMV

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

Damsel in dis Dress

On 28 Mar 2004 18:49:16 -0800, alex@totallynerd.com (Alex) wrote:

>Even though the meats, eggs, etc are nice
>and I have a good tasty variety, I'm thinking it might be better to go
>with a more traditional diet (fruits, veggies, etc)

You're on low-carb, but you're not eating vegetables?? You should be
eating a lot of veggies! And you can have small portions of fruit, as
well. I suggest either buying a book about low-carb, or researching it
online. The only site I know of, because I use it, is:
www.atkins.com

Best wishes,
Carol

--
Low Carb since March 12, 2004

Ignoramus14394

In article <2ba4b4eb.0403281849.6992bb41@posting.google.com >, Alex wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> This is kind of a last ditch effort to get my health and diet back on
> track. I'm almost 30, my weight is 275, male, and my cholesterol is
> around 180. One problem though is my blood pressure, which stays
> around 120-140/80-90.
>
> So now the diet debate. I've had good luck on the low-carb diet,
> loosing 15 pounds already this year, but I'm wanting to make a true
> change in my eating habits. Even though the meats, eggs, etc are nice
> and I have a good tasty variety, I'm thinking it might be better to go
> with a more traditional diet (fruits, veggies, etc). I'm also hoping
> to start lifting weights and plan to set-up time with a weight trainer
> a few times a week.
>
> So back to the diet question... for the 'experts' out there, for
> someone who wants to do more then simply loose weight, what diet route
> would you guys suggest?
>
> As for goals, this is a long-haul diet. I want something that's not
> too unrestrictive. With the carbs diet, no breads, pastas, etc, but
> with the low-fat diet, I think I can maybe have a small splurge meal
> every so often. Also, my longterm goals are to drop around 60-70
> pounds, but I'm not expecting that anytime soon. I want to not only
> get physically healthy, but feel healthy too. On the low-carbs diet,
> though I do loose weight, I still feel unhealthy. But maybe it's just
> me.
>
> Comments and suggestions please.. thanks,
>
> Alex.

You can always do what I did. Which is, drop all sugar and all junk
food, lower carbs substantially (to perhaps 150 carbs per day), but
not to radically low levels, and eat defined portions (same portions
every day). Significant daily exercise is also included. (walking 100
minutes per day in my case)

Given that you control portions, the result is guaranteed.

I lost 47 lbs in 100 days this way (100 days being a mere
coincidence). Have been maintaining for 6.5 months since then.

I do not believe in low fat dieting, myself.

i
223/173/180

freeborn

> Hi everyone,
>
> This is kind of a last ditch effort to get my health and diet back on
> track. I'm almost 30, my weight is 275, male, and my cholesterol is
> around 180. One problem though is my blood pressure, which stays
> around 120-140/80-90.
>
> So now the diet debate. I've had good luck on the low-carb diet,
> loosing 15 pounds already this year, but I'm wanting to make a true
> change in my eating habits. Even though the meats, eggs, etc are nice
> and I have a good tasty variety, I'm thinking it might be better to go
> with a more traditional diet (fruits, veggies, etc). I'm also hoping
> to start lifting weights and plan to set-up time with a weight trainer
> a few times a week.
>
> So back to the diet question... for the 'experts' out there, for
> someone who wants to do more then simply loose weight, what diet route
> would you guys suggest?
>
> As for goals, this is a long-haul diet. I want something that's not
> too unrestrictive. With the carbs diet, no breads, pastas, etc, but
> with the low-fat diet, I think I can maybe have a small splurge meal
> every so often. Also, my longterm goals are to drop around 60-70
> pounds, but I'm not expecting that anytime soon. I want to not only
> get physically healthy, but feel healthy too. On the low-carbs diet,
> though I do loose weight, I still feel unhealthy. But maybe it's just
> me.
>
> Comments and suggestions please.. thanks,
>
> Alex.

I am on the low carb path and I eat plenty of ...
Salads (and I love being able to have high fat dressings) with all kinds of
goodies, scallions, grated carrot, red cabbage and some sunflower seeds in
there is a fave, broccoli, cauiflower, green beans, there is some beautiful
asparagus waiting for me in the frig for tomorrow night.
Lately I haven't been eating any other fruits but fuji apples, although with
summer coming I plan to create some great fruit smoothies and experiment
with various lower carb fruits.
The low fat way stopped working for me and I was always feeling deprived and
tired.
I am working on a way of eating I can enjoy for the rest of my life.
I am at my ideal weight and I want to stay there forever.

The best to you !

*

vood

Woops, misposted... (Had several browser windows open & my anti-virus switched em around :-) )

vood

I know someone who had good results with Weight Watchers -- when she stuck to it (which I wouldn't blame on W.W. being too difficult, this is just how she's always drifted thru life, which says something since even she can still follow it part-time ;-P ).
I think Atkins can also be good...over the short-term, but then health effects (always) and the weight (usually) catch up -- I have a few dozen research citations to show that, but since you're quitting Atkins anyway... :-)

But I've done EVERYTHING wrong except for two things, yet my last physical was perfect, at age 30 (110 *TOTAL* cholesterol, eyesight good, 60 beats-per-minute, all lab-work perfect (and they actually do more tests to me and I needed to see an ophalmologist, not optomitrist, since I needed an auto racing license).

But you'd laugh at an overall description of my diet -- and no, this isn't just "good genes" because my sister has diabetes and my parents aren't wondrous specimens either: lots of Southern food (deep-fried, gravies -- the works) and Indian (oily) food, putting more than I can eat onto my plate, etc. Yeah, and here's how my physical exams go so well despite that diet:

One thing is that the oils I *DO* use are canola and olive, with occasional sesame/peanut/etc. for garnish. That one probably won't lose your weight, ;-) but it keeps heart-healthiness. 'Corn' and 'Veg' oils are just cheap and unhealthy crap which restaurants use and I rarely eat those. Oh yeah, so let's include that, too: I make my own meals whenever possible; restaurants and frozen meals KILL most dieters I've known, unless ya find a healthy one. Oh, and as most people mentioned, using cheap, 'refined' calories is bad; but guess what most restaurants use, white rice or brown, white bread or whole wheat? ;-) Basically, brown vs. white is usually a matter of the outer 'skin' being removed to get white -- the skin which has the most nutrients, which the plants uses to shelter its core and therefore takes you longer to digest this tough, outer, brown 'shell' & the calories within it. Eat whole foods; the human body hasn't evolved toward eating without that 'shell,' since 'white this and white that' was a recent technology. The other is that I eat nearly a vegan diet. It's not as hard as most people might think (strict veganism IS, though), and I still eat GREAT stuff, including VERY occasional eggs, etc. So all that roughage acts as 'filler,' making me feel full; also, since your body can only hold so much in the intestines at a time, it feels the need to get thru to the 'other end' faster, which means that it isn't sitting in your intestines and being absorbed for as long, which yields less CALORIC **DIGESTION**, but not CALORIC DIETARY INTAKE, so that any goodies you eat, if diluted by high-fiber food, WILL REGISTER ON YOUR TONGUE, BUT NOT BE FULLY DIGESTED. There's one downside: It also yields less absorption of other nutrients besides calories; but you can supplement with any that this faster digestion makes you miss, such as protein shakes, but I've had no problems, despite that I do heavy exercise, including injurious sports like no-rules jujitsu -- YMMV. I normally drink Chocolate Silk (not watery like most soymilk, and spot-on like real, WHOLE milk, not that 2% skimmed crap :-) ), eat Soy Delicious ice 'cream', etc. Milk/meat are 0% fiber, and I'm replacing all of their excessive calories (and cholesterol, hormones, etc.) with indigestible fiber and supplements -- everything the body needs, without most of those tag-along chemicals which harm it. High fiber just rocks. :-) I'm sure you can find more about fiber's importance (and recipes) if ya search the web, but if you're interested, I'll give ya links via email.