Luna

I don't know what is up with me lately. I've been way too emotional about
this stall. I go from being really depressed about it to really excited
about breaking it, and I get really gung-ho about exercising and eating
less, then I get really angry if I do something like have one bite of a
croissant, then I get really depressed again. I AM still using Fitday, I
skipped a couple of days and then used it again yesterday, and even on the
days I didn't use it I ate about what I'd been eating for the days I was
using it. So, I know I'm not overeating. I'm going and working out even
when I don't feel like it, but I have very little enthuisiasm for it any
more.

It used to be, I'd get weighed and measured every month at Curves, and I
wouldn't even think about my weight until those monthly weigh-ins. But my
happiness was not a reflection of the number on the scale. Now I find
myself weighing at home every day on my cheap, unreliable scale from
Wal-mart, which is still not going down, and feeling bad about it.

I want to keep working on losing weight, I want to hope for an end to the
stall, but I wish my emotions weren't so tied up in it.

I have found in the past that when I really want something, the straining,
yearning, desperate hope for it doesn't make it come any sooner. All it
does is make the waiting harder. It's like when you want a relationship,
and you want one so badly that you have this aura of desperation around
you. I finally woke up one day and had to face the possiblilty that I
might be single forever. It was scary and sad. But I faced it, I
visualized my life as a single woman forever, and it wasn't as bad as I'd
feared. I realized I had friends, family, interests, and enough good
things about me to keep myself occupied for the rest of my life even if I
never have a partner. I still wanted a relationship but being single
wasn't the end of the world anymore. The desperation left, and I became
more attractive to the opposite sex, and now I'm dating again.

I wonder if I should apply the same sort of thought process to weight loss.
Keep limiting carbs and calories, keep exercising, but become at peace with
the possibility that I may be this weight forever. Twenty pounds less
would be better, but this weight isn't the end of the world. I don't have
to be miserable if the scale doesn't move. I don't know if there's some
cosmic process at work here beyond simply "calories in, calories out" but I
do know that the brain and the body are connected, and changing one often
changes the other. So maybe if I stop fighting so hard (emotionally, not
in the practicalities of what I eat and how much I work out) my body will
start cooperating. People do get over illnesses quicker when they have a
more positive outlook, could it be that a more positive, peaceful,
emotionally balanced mental state could help with weight loss as well?

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

JC Der Koenig

You're overthinking the problem by a large margin.

If you really want to lose weight, you will.
--
"If I can't *count* the carbs, it can't be part of a
low-carb diet." --- jpatti


"Luna" <lunachick@NOSPAMmindspring.com> wrote in message
news:lunachick-98C0CF.11382128032004@news01.east.earthlink.net...
> I don't know what is up with me lately. I've been way too emotional about
> this stall. I go from being really depressed about it to really excited
> about breaking it, and I get really gung-ho about exercising and eating
> less, then I get really angry if I do something like have one bite of a
> croissant, then I get really depressed again. I AM still using Fitday, I
> skipped a couple of days and then used it again yesterday, and even on the
> days I didn't use it I ate about what I'd been eating for the days I was
> using it. So, I know I'm not overeating. I'm going and working out even
> when I don't feel like it, but I have very little enthuisiasm for it any
> more.
>
> It used to be, I'd get weighed and measured every month at Curves, and I
> wouldn't even think about my weight until those monthly weigh-ins. But my
> happiness was not a reflection of the number on the scale. Now I find
> myself weighing at home every day on my cheap, unreliable scale from
> Wal-mart, which is still not going down, and feeling bad about it.
>
> I want to keep working on losing weight, I want to hope for an end to the
> stall, but I wish my emotions weren't so tied up in it.
>
> I have found in the past that when I really want something, the straining,
> yearning, desperate hope for it doesn't make it come any sooner. All it
> does is make the waiting harder. It's like when you want a relationship,
> and you want one so badly that you have this aura of desperation around
> you. I finally woke up one day and had to face the possiblilty that I
> might be single forever. It was scary and sad. But I faced it, I
> visualized my life as a single woman forever, and it wasn't as bad as I'd
> feared. I realized I had friends, family, interests, and enough good
> things about me to keep myself occupied for the rest of my life even if I
> never have a partner. I still wanted a relationship but being single
> wasn't the end of the world anymore. The desperation left, and I became
> more attractive to the opposite sex, and now I'm dating again.
>
> I wonder if I should apply the same sort of thought process to weight
loss.
> Keep limiting carbs and calories, keep exercising, but become at peace
with
> the possibility that I may be this weight forever. Twenty pounds less
> would be better, but this weight isn't the end of the world. I don't have
> to be miserable if the scale doesn't move. I don't know if there's some
> cosmic process at work here beyond simply "calories in, calories out" but
I
> do know that the brain and the body are connected, and changing one often
> changes the other. So maybe if I stop fighting so hard (emotionally, not
> in the practicalities of what I eat and how much I work out) my body will
> start cooperating. People do get over illnesses quicker when they have a
> more positive outlook, could it be that a more positive, peaceful,
> emotionally balanced mental state could help with weight loss as well?
>
> --
> Michelle Levin
> http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick
>
> I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

rosie

"Luna" <lunachick@NOSPAMmindspring.com> wrote in message
news:lunachick-98C0CF.11382128032004@news01.east.earthlink.net...
: ................I don't know what is up with me lately. I've been
way too emotional about
: this stall..............................




................................I'm going and working out even
: when I don't feel like it, but I have very little enthuisiasm for
it any
: more.
:
:


luna,
that is what i meant by my post to you early last
week.................your exercise schedule WAS NOT REALISTIC, and
doomed for failure. (failure = your lack of enthusiasm, and joy)

get outside and take a nice long walk, and give yourself a pat on
the back for that.
when you start enjoying your life, eating properly, and exercising
REALISTICALLY, that poundage WILL fall off.
i promise!

rosie

Luna

In article <bED9c.3640$z%1.1393@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
"rosie" <sorry@toomanymalcontents.com> wrote:

> "Luna" <lunachick@NOSPAMmindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:lunachick-98C0CF.11382128032004@news01.east.earthlink.net...
> : ................I don't know what is up with me lately. I've been
> way too emotional about
> : this stall..............................
>
>
>
>
> ...............................I'm going and working out even
> : when I don't feel like it, but I have very little enthuisiasm for
> it any
> : more.
> :
> :
>
>
> luna,
> that is what i meant by my post to you early last
> week.................your exercise schedule WAS NOT REALISTIC, and
> doomed for failure. (failure = your lack of enthusiasm, and joy)
>
> get outside and take a nice long walk, and give yourself a pat on
> the back for that.
> when you start enjoying your life, eating properly, and exercising
> REALISTICALLY, that poundage WILL fall off.
> i promise!
>
> rosie
>
>

My excercise schedule is totally realistic. On the weekdays I only work
from 2 - 6 pm, except Thursdays which I either have off or work at the
movie theater from 4ish to midnight. The YMCA is less than a 10 minute
drive from work. I go work out for an hour before work, no biggie. I
don't even leave the house until noon, work out from about 12:30 to about
1:30, or 12 - 1 if I'm taking a class, still have plenty of time to grab
lunch at the grocery store across the street from work.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

Roger Zoul

Luna wrote:
:: I don't know what is up with me lately. I've been way too emotional
:: about this stall. I go from being really depressed about it to
:: really excited about breaking it, and I get really gung-ho about
:: exercising and eating less, then I get really angry if I do
:: something like have one bite of a croissant, then I get really
:: depressed again. I AM still using Fitday, I skipped a couple of
:: days and then used it again yesterday, and even on the days I didn't
:: use it I ate about what I'd been eating for the days I was using it.
:: So, I know I'm not overeating. I'm going and working out even when
:: I don't feel like it, but I have very little enthuisiasm for it any
:: more.


JFYI....I find often that ahead of a workout, if I don't feel like doing it,
but go anyway, that it turns out to be a very satisfying workout. See,
after you get into it, starting kind of slow, giving yourself time to warm
up -- because, you're really taking it kind of easy because you didn't want
to do it anyway -- then, before you know it, you've found the groove...then
you'll end up wondering why in the hell you didn't want to workout in the
first place. When that workout is over you feel really good.

Sometimes, the plain simple truth is less is more.

::
:: It used to be, I'd get weighed and measured every month at Curves,
:: and I wouldn't even think about my weight until those monthly
:: weigh-ins. But my happiness was not a reflection of the number on
:: the scale. Now I find myself weighing at home every day on my cheap,
:: unreliable scale from Wal-mart, which is still not going down, and
:: feeling bad about it.

You're on the part of the curve where things start to get harder. You've
heard it mentioned here many, many times and hence you know this happens to
all dieters, exercise or not.

What do you think is the solution to your problem?

::
:: I want to keep working on losing weight, I want to hope for an end
:: to the stall, but I wish my emotions weren't so tied up in it.

Then to get your emotions out of it, focus on being more analytical in your
approach. Truly make it "Luna's science experiment." Check Carol Ann's
monthly challenge pages. You'll see that I've gone months on end in what
some refer to as a stall. But I kept at it...grinding away. Eventually,
things change. Sometimes you simply get bored. So, even though you want to
lose weight, you end up just maintaining (which, imo, is good to since you
didn't go back up). But after a while you decide that "hey -- it's time to
push a little harder"...and then your body wakes up....you start losing
again.

It's a journey, Luna, and everyone walks a different path. Your's will be
what it is, but the important thing is you keep on the path. Just refuse to
give up. Eventually, with that kind of attitude, you get where you need to
go.

::
:: I have found in the past that when I really want something, the
:: straining, yearning, desperate hope for it doesn't make it come any
:: sooner.

Absolutely. Actions, backed up my intelligence, are the only things that
give results. Having "hope" is fine, but without actions it's useless.


All it does is make the waiting harder. It's like when you
:: want a relationship, and you want one so badly that you have this
:: aura of desperation around you. I finally woke up one day and had
:: to face the possiblilty that I might be single forever. It was
:: scary and sad. But I faced it, I visualized my life as a single
:: woman forever, and it wasn't as bad as I'd feared. I realized I had
:: friends, family, interests, and enough good things about me to keep
:: myself occupied for the rest of my life even if I never have a
:: partner. I still wanted a relationship but being single wasn't the
:: end of the world anymore. The desperation left, and I became more
:: attractive to the opposite sex, and now I'm dating again.
::
:: I wonder if I should apply the same sort of thought process to
:: weight loss. Keep limiting carbs and calories, keep exercising, but
:: become at peace with the possibility that I may be this weight
:: forever.

That is a form of "less is more."

Twenty pounds less would be better, but this weight isn't
:: the end of the world. I don't have to be miserable if the scale
:: doesn't move. I don't know if there's some cosmic process at work
:: here beyond simply "calories in, calories out" but I do know that
:: the brain and the body are connected, and changing one often changes
:: the other. So maybe if I stop fighting so hard (emotionally, not in
:: the practicalities of what I eat and how much I work out) my body
:: will start cooperating.

That is very true in the sense that you won't get frustrated and give up, or
flip-flop from week to week. Some things just have to be given time to have
an impact. Instant results just aren't realistic. Persistence pays
dividends, big time.

People do get over illnesses quicker when
:: they have a more positive outlook, could it be that a more positive,
:: peaceful, emotionally balanced mental state could help with weight
:: loss as well?

Absolutely.

Irv Finkleman

Luna wrote:
>
> I don't know what is up with me lately. I've been way too emotional about
> this stall. I go from being really depressed about it to really excited
> about breaking it,....

I presume you are still on the 'quit smoking' phase as well. That is a big
thing for the body to adjust to. Just carry on with normal low carbing and
give your body a chance to get things straight -- the stall will break when
your body is ready. Don't let it get you down -- I think you are doing great!

Irv

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Cubit

Keep up the good work. Be patient. If the stall does not break, do some
research. Atkins has a whole list of things that might be causing a stall.


"Luna" <lunachick@NOSPAMmindspring.com> wrote in message
news:lunachick-98C0CF.11382128032004@news01.east.earthlink.net...
> I don't know what is up with me lately. I've been way too emotional about
> this stall. I go from being really depressed about it to really excited
> about breaking it, and I get really gung-ho about exercising and eating
> less, then I get really angry if I do something like have one bite of a
> croissant, then I get really depressed again. I AM still using Fitday, I
> skipped a couple of days and then used it again yesterday, and even on the
> days I didn't use it I ate about what I'd been eating for the days I was
> using it. So, I know I'm not overeating. I'm going and working out even
> when I don't feel like it, but I have very little enthuisiasm for it any
> more.
>
> It used to be, I'd get weighed and measured every month at Curves, and I
> wouldn't even think about my weight until those monthly weigh-ins. But my
> happiness was not a reflection of the number on the scale. Now I find
> myself weighing at home every day on my cheap, unreliable scale from
> Wal-mart, which is still not going down, and feeling bad about it.
>
> I want to keep working on losing weight, I want to hope for an end to the
> stall, but I wish my emotions weren't so tied up in it.
>
> I have found in the past that when I really want something, the straining,
> yearning, desperate hope for it doesn't make it come any sooner. All it
> does is make the waiting harder. It's like when you want a relationship,
> and you want one so badly that you have this aura of desperation around
> you. I finally woke up one day and had to face the possiblilty that I
> might be single forever. It was scary and sad. But I faced it, I
> visualized my life as a single woman forever, and it wasn't as bad as I'd
> feared. I realized I had friends, family, interests, and enough good
> things about me to keep myself occupied for the rest of my life even if I
> never have a partner. I still wanted a relationship but being single
> wasn't the end of the world anymore. The desperation left, and I became
> more attractive to the opposite sex, and now I'm dating again.
>
> I wonder if I should apply the same sort of thought process to weight
loss.
> Keep limiting carbs and calories, keep exercising, but become at peace
with
> the possibility that I may be this weight forever. Twenty pounds less
> would be better, but this weight isn't the end of the world. I don't have
> to be miserable if the scale doesn't move. I don't know if there's some
> cosmic process at work here beyond simply "calories in, calories out" but
I
> do know that the brain and the body are connected, and changing one often
> changes the other. So maybe if I stop fighting so hard (emotionally, not
> in the practicalities of what I eat and how much I work out) my body will
> start cooperating. People do get over illnesses quicker when they have a
> more positive outlook, could it be that a more positive, peaceful,
> emotionally balanced mental state could help with weight loss as well?
>
> --
> Michelle Levin
> http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick
>
> I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

Damsel in dis Dress

On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 16:39:03 GMT, Luna <lunachick@NOSPAMmindspring.com>
wrote:

>People do get over illnesses quicker when they have a
>more positive outlook, could it be that a more positive, peaceful,
>emotionally balanced mental state could help with weight loss as well?

That's what I'm hoping! I hope that you'll start losing again very soon.
You've worked very hard, for a long time. You definitely deserve a visit
from the Whoosh Fairy.

Hang in there, Michelle.

Carol

--
Low Carb since March 12, 2004

Luna

In article <hmse60ta67b4pocf1p37jqt6jt4m2b9sru@4ax.com>,
Damsel in dis Dress <damsel-removethis@mailblocks.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 16:39:03 GMT, Luna <lunachick@NOSPAMmindspring.com>
> wrote:
>
> >People do get over illnesses quicker when they have a
> >more positive outlook, could it be that a more positive, peaceful,
> >emotionally balanced mental state could help with weight loss as well?
>
> That's what I'm hoping! I hope that you'll start losing again very soon.
> You've worked very hard, for a long time. You definitely deserve a visit
> from the Whoosh Fairy.
>
> Hang in there, Michelle.
>
> Carol

Thanks hon. There's no use stressing myself out. I think I was getting
too worked up partly because I want to look really stellar for DragonCon
this year, which translates as losing at least another 20 pounds. It's
labor day weekend, so there's not much time. I decided to say **** it to
that goal, and just take what comes. Plus, if I did lose the weight, I'm
not sure how I'd take in the black jeans I got that lace all the way up the
sides. ;o)

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

TavliGal

Luna wrote:
>> In article <hmse60ta67b4pocf1p37jqt6jt4m2b9sru@4ax.com>,
>> Damsel in dis Dress <damsel-removethis@mailblocks.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 16:39:03 GMT, Luna
>>> <lunachick@NOSPAMmindspring.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> People do get over illnesses quicker when they have a
>>>> more positive outlook, could it be that a more positive, peaceful,
>>>> emotionally balanced mental state could help with weight loss as
>>>> well?
>>>
>>> That's what I'm hoping! I hope that you'll start losing again
>>> very soon. You've worked very hard, for a long time. You
>>> definitely deserve a visit from the Whoosh Fairy.
>>>
>>> Hang in there, Michelle.
>>>
>>> Carol
>>
>> Thanks hon. There's no use stressing myself out. I think I was
>> getting too worked up partly because I want to look really stellar
>> for DragonCon this year, which translates as losing at least another
>> 20 pounds. It's labor day weekend, so there's not much time. I
>> decided to say **** it to that goal, and just take what comes.
>> Plus, if I did lose the weight, I'm not sure how I'd take in the
>> black jeans I got that lace all the way up the sides. ;o)
>>
How about taking them in from the inseam? I used to do that with a pair of
jeans I had.
Monica

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