Please forgive me if I'm posting to the wrong newsgroup, but I didn't
know which newsgroup was best.
I have a friend running Windows 98 on an older Pentium machine (12 Gig
HD, 96 MB Ram). She also has a built-in Zip drive, and an external CD
burner. Lately, she has been having performance problems--one good (albeit
strange) example is that her computer becomes unstable when you try to
access the control panel from the start menu.

The TSRs that appear on the list when you do Ctrl-Alt-Delete are as
follows:
Explorer
Wupdater
Attune_cu
Rnaapp
Save
Attune_di
Attune_no
Attune_ta
Comwiz
Winnet
Loadqm
Aoltray
Tppstray
Iowatch
Attune_st
Rundll
Tppaldr
Atitask
3dmouse
Aticwd32
Systray
Vshwin32
Autolaunch
Imgicon
Msgloop
Msg32

I did some research on Google and found nothing useful. I can identify
some of the obvious applications like Explorer, Systray, and Iowatch, but
that's about it. I would like to know where to look to find out what these
are, shut down anything that isn't necessary (and by extension, info on how
to shut these things off), and confirm that none of these are
viruses/malware. Where should I look for info?
Thanks in advance for any help.


------------------------------------------------
John Haywood
E-mail: jhaywoo-at-att-dot-net (correct to use--unless you're sending spam).
Quote: "Some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they
go." -- Oscar Wilde
------------------------------------------------

In article <af6Nb.13406$VS4.426659@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
[email]reply@the.address.belo[/email]w says...
> to shut these things off), and confirm that none of these are
> viruses/malware.

Isn't vshwin32 the McAfee memory-resident scanner? If it's updated OK,
that should rule out viruses and trojans.
I suggest getting AdAware and SpyBot to check for non-viral but
unwelcome stuff planted by websites.
Does she use AOL? If not, dump AOLtray.
Many Win98 problems respond well to adding more RAM and defragging the
disk.
--
A head of steam

"John Haywood" <reply@the.address.below> schreef in bericht
news:af6Nb.13406$VS4.426659@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Please forgive me if I'm posting to the wrong newsgroup, but I didn't
> know which newsgroup was best.
> I have a friend running Windows 98 on an older Pentium machine (12 Gig
> HD, 96 MB Ram). She also has a built-in Zip drive, and an external CD
> burner. Lately, she has been having performance problems--one good
(albeit
> strange) example is that her computer becomes unstable when you try to
> access the control panel from the start menu.
>
> The TSRs that appear on the list when you do Ctrl-Alt-Delete are as
> follows:
> Explorer
> Wupdater
> Attune_cu
> Rnaapp
> Save
> Attune_di
> Attune_no
> Attune_ta
> Comwiz
> Winnet
> Loadqm
> Aoltray
> Tppstray
> Iowatch
> Attune_st
> Rundll
> Tppaldr
> Atitask
> 3dmouse
> Aticwd32
> Systray
> Vshwin32
> Autolaunch
> Imgicon
> Msgloop
> Msg32
>
> I did some research on Google and found nothing useful. I can
identify
> some of the obvious applications like Explorer, Systray, and Iowatch, but
> that's about it. I would like to know where to look to find out what
these
> are, shut down anything that isn't necessary (and by extension, info on
how
> to shut these things off), and confirm that none of these are
> viruses/malware. Where should I look for info?
> Thanks in advance for any help.

Start with spybot S&D [url]www.tomcoyote.com/spybot[/url]
Download, update, run it and remove every entry it finds.

"John Haywood" <reply@the.address.below> schreef in bericht
news:af6Nb.13406$VS4.426659@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...

[url]http://www.pestpatrol.com/pestinfo/h/helpexpress.asp[/url]

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 07:31:18 GMT, "John Haywood"
<reply@the.address.below> wrote:

> Please forgive me if I'm posting to the wrong newsgroup, but I didn't
>know which newsgroup was best.
> I have a friend running Windows 98 on an older Pentium machine (12 Gig
>HD, 96 MB Ram). She also has a built-in Zip drive, and an external CD
>burner. Lately, she has been having performance problems--one good (albeit
>strange) example is that her computer becomes unstable when you try to
>access the control panel from the start menu.
>
> The TSRs that appear on the list when you do Ctrl-Alt-Delete are as
>follows:
>Explorer
>Wupdater
>Attune_cu
>Rnaapp
>Save
>Attune_di
>Attune_no
>Attune_ta
>Comwiz
>Winnet
>Loadqm
>Aoltray
>Tppstray
>Iowatch
>Attune_st
>Rundll
>Tppaldr
>Atitask
>3dmouse
>Aticwd32
>Systray
>Vshwin32
>Autolaunch
>Imgicon
>Msgloop
>Msg32
>
> I did some research on Google and found nothing useful. I can identify
>some of the obvious applications like Explorer, Systray, and Iowatch, but
>that's about it. I would like to know where to look to find out what these
>are, shut down anything that isn't necessary (and by extension, info on how
>to shut these things off), and confirm that none of these are
>viruses/malware. Where should I look for info?
> Thanks in advance for any help.

See [url]http://www.pestpatrol.com/pestinfo/h/helpexpress.asp[/url]

And use spybot [url]www.tomcoyote.com/spybot[/url] to remove your unwanted TSR's

added a few of the obvious ones....

>
> The TSRs that appear on the list when you do Ctrl-Alt-Delete are as
> follows:
> Explorer (GUI)
> Wupdater (Windows automatic update)
> Attune_cu
> Rnaapp
> Save
> Attune_di
> Attune_no
> Attune_ta
> Comwiz
> Winnet
> Loadqm
> Aoltray (AOL system tray start icon)
> Tppstray
> Iowatch
> Attune_st
> Rundll
> Tppaldr
> Atitask (ATI Video card configuration program)
> 3dmouse(3d mouse driver config program)
> Aticwd32
> Systray (Windows system tray)
> Vshwin32
> Autolaunch
> Imgicon
> Msgloop
> Msg32
>
> I did some research on Google and found nothing useful. I can
identify
> some of the obvious applications like Explorer, Systray, and Iowatch, but
> that's about it. I would like to know where to look to find out what
these
> are, shut down anything that isn't necessary (and by extension, info on
how
> to shut these things off), and confirm that none of these are
> viruses/malware. Where should I look for info?
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------
> John Haywood
> E-mail: jhaywoo-at-att-dot-net (correct to use--unless you're sending
spam).
> Quote: "Some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they
> go." -- Oscar Wilde
> ------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>

On that special day, John Haywood, (reply@the.address.below) said...

....
> Attune_cu

> Save

What's that?

....
> Attune_di
> Attune_no
> Attune_ta
> Comwiz
> Winnet
> Loadqm
> Aoltray
....
> Attune_st

Do you think, running AT&T software and AOL software at the same time,
won't cause conflicts (both are dialin/internet software after all). I
am afraid the problem is that the two are "fighting" over getting access
to the modem.


Gabriele Neukam

[email]Gabriele.Spamfighter.Neukam@t-online.de[/email]


--
Ah, Information. A good, too valuable these days, to give it away, just
so, at no cost.

You have a lot of stuff that should NOT be there, use the firt two links below
to install spyware removers, update them from the update link in the installed
program and allow them to remove your garbage. Rnaapp is real networks updater
tool, you should remove it, from the preferences section of real player, as it
makes no difference to the speed at which streaming media starts (the
purported reason for its existence), they do not update the program frequently
enough fo daily checking to be neccessary, and it DOES report back to real
networks with what you are doing.

--
Adaware [url]http://www.lavasoft.de[/url]
spybot [url]http://security.kolla.de[/url]
AVG [url]http://www.grisoft.com[/url]
Panda online scan [url]http://www.pandasoftware.com/ActiveScan/[/url]
Catalog of removal tools [url]http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/utilities/[/url]
links provided as a courtesy, no endorsement of the products is implied, no
sane person would be without one anyway

"John Haywood" <reply@the.address.below> wrote in message
news:af6Nb.13406$VS4.426659@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
| Please forgive me if I'm posting to the wrong newsgroup, but I didn't
| know which newsgroup was best.
| I have a friend running Windows 98 on an older Pentium machine (12 Gig
| HD, 96 MB Ram). She also has a built-in Zip drive, and an external CD
| burner. Lately, she has been having performance problems--one good (albeit
| strange) example is that her computer becomes unstable when you try to
| access the control panel from the start menu.
|
| The TSRs that appear on the list when you do Ctrl-Alt-Delete are as
| follows:
| Explorer
| Wupdater
| Attune_cu
| Rnaapp
| Save
| Attune_di
| Attune_no
| Attune_ta
| Comwiz
| Winnet
| Loadqm
| Aoltray
| Tppstray
| Iowatch
| Attune_st
| Rundll
| Tppaldr
| Atitask
| 3dmouse
| Aticwd32
| Systray
| Vshwin32
| Autolaunch
| Imgicon
| Msgloop
| Msg32
|
| I did some research on Google and found nothing useful. I can identify
| some of the obvious applications like Explorer, Systray, and Iowatch, but
| that's about it. I would like to know where to look to find out what these
| are, shut down anything that isn't necessary (and by extension, info on how
| to shut these things off), and confirm that none of these are
| viruses/malware. Where should I look for info?
| Thanks in advance for any help.
|
|
| ------------------------------------------------
| John Haywood
| E-mail: jhaywoo-at-att-dot-net (correct to use--unless you're sending spam).
| Quote: "Some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they
| go." -- Oscar Wilde
| ------------------------------------------------
|
|
|
|
|

"Gabriele Neukam" <Gabriele.Spamfighter.Neukam@t-online.de> wrote in message
news:bu3t43$2q2$05$1@news.t-online.com...
> On that special day, John Haywood, (reply@the.address.below) said...
>
> ...
> > Attune_cu
>
> > Save
>
> What's that?
>

I have no idea what Save is.


> ...
> > Attune_di
> > Attune_no
> > Attune_ta
> > Comwiz
> > Winnet
> > Loadqm
> > Aoltray
> ...
> > Attune_st
>
> Do you think, running AT&T software and AOL software at the same time,
> won't cause conflicts (both are dialin/internet software after all). I
> am afraid the problem is that the two are "fighting" over getting access
> to the modem.
>
(snip)

She isn't running AT&T--just AOL. What made you think otherwise?


------------------------------------------------
John Haywood
E-mail: jhaywoo-at-att-dot-net (correct to use--unless you're sending spam).
Quote: "If it's free, it's me." -- Fred Taylor, Jacksonville Jaguars
halfback
------------------------------------------------

First of all, thank you for your advice.
Yes, she does run McAfee--I considered that one an obvious one. She
also uses AOL for her ISP.
Don't know when she last defragged her disk. As for more RAM, I know
money is tight for her, so that's not an option for now.
I'm also trying to sell her on the idea of Ad-Aware and ZoneAlarm. I
thought SpyBot was redundant with Ad-Aware, though the consensus on Usenet
is otherwise. (So, I'll probably be getting it myself.) What I've found
suggests very, very strongly that Wupdater is some sort of
Trojan/spyware--so at least one thing has to go.

------------------------------------------------
John Haywood
E-mail: jhaywoo-at-att-dot-net (correct to use--unless you're sending spam).
Quote: "If it's free, it's me." -- Fred Taylor, Jacksonville Jaguars
halfback
------------------------------------------------


"Dave OldBloke Budd" <davebudd@ukmisc.org.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a6f2bb0c317f970989980@news.xenopsyche.ne t...
> In article <af6Nb.13406$VS4.426659@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> [email]reply@the.address.belo[/email]w says...
> > to shut these things off), and confirm that none of these are
> > viruses/malware.
>
> Isn't vshwin32 the McAfee memory-resident scanner? If it's updated OK,
> that should rule out viruses and trojans.
> I suggest getting AdAware and SpyBot to check for non-viral but
> unwelcome stuff planted by websites.
> Does she use AOL? If not, dump AOLtray.
> Many Win98 problems respond well to adding more RAM and defragging the
> disk.
> --
> A head of steam

"AlmostBob" <batterybob@optusnet.DELETECAPITALS.com.au> wrote in message news:uv9pSTs2DHA.2060@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...

> Rnaapp is real networks updater tool, you should remove it, from the
> preferences section of real player....

Are you sure about this?

John Haywood wrote:

> First of all, thank you for your advice.
> Yes, she does run McAfee--I considered that one an obvious one. She
> also uses AOL for her ISP.
> Don't know when she last defragged her disk. As for more RAM, I know
> money is tight for her, so that's not an option for now.
<snip>

While I don't really agree that more memory is the solution (she's just got way
too much crap running), money being tight should not be a huge obstacle.
128MB of the older EDO RAM is $18 on PriceWatch.

Tom
--
De-munge my address to reply via email.
Spammers will be dealt with accordingly.
All incoming mail/news scanned with AVG Anti-Virus.

In Message-ID:<eYqNb.5921$Xq2.99@fed1read07> posted on Wed, 14 Jan 2004
23:13:07 -0800, Jan Il wrote:

>I have the file Rnaapp.exe on my system. I have updated and run SpyBot,
>Adaware, AVG6, F-Prot, and they have all come with no virus or other finds.
>I have tried to delete this from the Search window, and from Explorer, and I
>get am error message that it can not be deleted as it is in use by windows.
>I uninstalled the RealPlayer a few weeks ago, and there were 4 files left on
>the system. While I was able to delete 3 of them, this file will not delete.
>Should I try to delete it from the dos prompt using the startup disk, or is
>there a different way this needs to be deleted.

What folder is it in?

--

Bart

Hi Bart!

> >I have the file Rnaapp.exe on my system. I have updated and run SpyBot,
> >Adaware, AVG6, F-Prot, and they have all come with no virus or other
finds.
> >I have tried to delete this from the Search window, and from Explorer,
and I
> >get am error message that it can not be deleted as it is in use by
windows.
> >I uninstalled the RealPlayer a few weeks ago, and there were 4 files left
on
> >the system. While I was able to delete 3 of them, this file will not
delete.
> >Should I try to delete it from the dos prompt using the startup disk, or
is
> >there a different way this needs to be deleted.
>
> What folder is it in?

C:\Windows\System

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 23:13:07 -0800, "Jan Il" <abuse@localhost.com>
wrote:

>I have the file Rnaapp.exe on my system. I have updated and run SpyBot,
>Adaware, AVG6, F-Prot, and they have all come with no virus or other finds.

That's plenty of self help effort. You're moving in the right
direction.

>I have tried to delete this from the Search window, and from Explorer, and I

You've read Bart's & rafter's replies? Stop deleting stuff willy-nilly
and start believing in yourself.


Jim.