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12-31-2003, 02:24 PM

"By the act of scrolling this post on your computer, and/or printing or
replying to this post, you agree that I am your everlasting Lord &
Saviour. Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell for
ever and ever! Amen!"

David wrote:

> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.net> wrote in
> news:Ofbpo27zDHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl:
>
>> By the act of scrolling this post on your computer, and/or printing
>> or replying to this post, you agree that I am your everlasting Lord &
>> Saviour. Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell for
>> ever and ever! Amen!"
>>
>> Gary Tait wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 20:59:31 -0500, "kurttrail"
>>> <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "By the act of scrolling this post on your computer, and/or
>>>> printing or replying to this post, you agree that I am your
>>>> everlasting Lord
> &
>>>> Saviour. Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell
>>>> for ever and ever! Amen!"
>>>>
>>>> Ken Blake wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In news:02c101c3cf2c$03273e40$a601280a@phx.gbl,
>>>>> Samir <jamescraig@ntlworld.com> typed:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello i wonder if you could help,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have just purchased Windows XP Home edition OEM. I
>>>>>> have two PC's networked together in my living room and i
>>>>>> was wondering if i could use the same copy on both PC's
>>>>>> or will i have to purchase a second copy.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The rule is quite clear.
>>>>
>>>> And by what authority does MS have for imposing rules in any
>>>> individuals home? It's a "vapor-license."
>>>>
>>>
>>> The OS is their property. What you purchase with the media, is the
>>> right to install the software contained on that media on only one
>>> PC.
>>>
>>
>> It is their copyrighted material. IT IS NOT REAL PROPERTY. The real
>> property would be the copy of software, the installation media or CD,
>> which is owned by the consumer, not MS.
>
> Commets enclosed within <> added by me.
>
> § 202. Ownership of copyright as distinct from ownership of material
> object
> Ownership of a copyright, or of any of the exclusive rights under a
> copyright, is distinct from ownership of any material object in which
> the work is embodied <the CD>. Transfer of ownership of any material
> object, including the copy or phonorecord in which the work is first
> fixed, does not of itself convey any rights in the copyrighted work
> embodied in the object <The software>; nor, in the absence of an
> agreement, does transfer of ownership of a copyright or of any
> exclusive rights under a copyright convey property rights in any
> material object.
>
> In other words, Kurt, you bought the CD. Not the Software. Why can't
> you get this through your thick head?
>

What don't you understand about the software not being property? The
software isn't owned by MS either, they own the copyright to the
software, hence the title, "Ownership of copyright as distinct from
ownership of material object <real physical property>."

> § 1201. Circumvention of copyright protection systems2
> (a) Violations Regarding Circumvention of Technological Measures. —
> (1) (A) No person shall circumvent a technological measure that
> effectively controls access to a work protected under this title. The
> prohibition contained in the preceding sentence shall take effect at
> the end of the 2-year period beginning on the date of the enactment
> of this chapter.
>
> 3) As used in this subsection —
>
> (A) to “circumvent a technological measure” means to descramble a
> scrambled work, to decrypt an encrypted work, or otherwise to avoid,
> bypass, remove, deactivate, or impair a technological measure, without
> the authority of the copyright owner; and
>
> (B) a technological measure “effectively controls access to a work” if
> the measure, in the ordinary course of its operation, requires the
> application of information, or a process or a treatment, with the
> authority of the copyright owner, to gain access to the work.
>
> Your little "Microscum" website that you claim to be parody, But, in
> fact, describes a method to circumvent WPA is illegal.

(c) Other Rights, Etc., Not Affected. -
(1) Nothing in this section shall affect rights, remedies, limitations,
or defenses to copyright infringement, including fair use, under this
title. - http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/1201.html

LOL! Which brings us right back to the "limitation" Congress placed on
computer copyright owners, Title 17 Chapter 1 Section 117.

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/117.html

ROFL! I've been down this road before with others. Besides which, I
think my 1st Amendment Rights would trump the DMCA, if MS ever tried to
invoke the DMCA to get my page removed.

And a Princeton grad-student just was threaten with the DMCA for posting
information about circumventing a type of CD copy-protection made by
SunnComm Technologies, but SunnComm decided not to peruse a losing
cause.

http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-5089448.html

>
> But, then, I know you're going to try to twist and re-intuetrept to
> your satisfaction.
>
> Source: http://www.copyright.gov/title17/

Twist? I don't have to twist anything, as the law is on my side!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

12-31-2003, 02:24 PM	#22
kurttrail Posts: n/a	Re: Windows XP Activating for two PC's "By the act of scrolling this post on your computer, and/or printing or replying to this post, you agree that I am your everlasting Lord & Saviour. Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell for ever and ever! Amen!" David wrote: > "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.net> wrote in > news:Ofbpo27zDHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl: > >> By the act of scrolling this post on your computer, and/or printing >> or replying to this post, you agree that I am your everlasting Lord & >> Saviour. Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell for >> ever and ever! Amen!" >> >> Gary Tait wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 20:59:31 -0500, "kurttrail" >>> <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote: >>> >>>> "By the act of scrolling this post on your computer, and/or >>>> printing or replying to this post, you agree that I am your >>>> everlasting Lord > & >>>> Saviour. Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell >>>> for ever and ever! Amen!" >>>> >>>> Ken Blake wrote: >>>> >>>>> In news:02c101c3cf2c$03273e40$a601280a@phx.gbl, >>>>> Samir <jamescraig@ntlworld.com> typed: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello i wonder if you could help, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have just purchased Windows XP Home edition OEM. I >>>>>> have two PC's networked together in my living room and i >>>>>> was wondering if i could use the same copy on both PC's >>>>>> or will i have to purchase a second copy. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The rule is quite clear. >>>> >>>> And by what authority does MS have for imposing rules in any >>>> individuals home? It's a "vapor-license." >>>> >>> >>> The OS is their property. What you purchase with the media, is the >>> right to install the software contained on that media on only one >>> PC. >>> >> >> It is their copyrighted material. IT IS NOT REAL PROPERTY. The real >> property would be the copy of software, the installation media or CD, >> which is owned by the consumer, not MS. > > Commets enclosed within <> added by me. > > § 202. Ownership of copyright as distinct from ownership of material > object > Ownership of a copyright, or of any of the exclusive rights under a > copyright, is distinct from ownership of any material object in which > the work is embodied <the CD>. Transfer of ownership of any material > object, including the copy or phonorecord in which the work is first > fixed, does not of itself convey any rights in the copyrighted work > embodied in the object <The software>; nor, in the absence of an > agreement, does transfer of ownership of a copyright or of any > exclusive rights under a copyright convey property rights in any > material object. > > In other words, Kurt, you bought the CD. Not the Software. Why can't > you get this through your thick head? > What don't you understand about the software not being property? The software isn't owned by MS either, they own the copyright to the software, hence the title, "Ownership of copyright as distinct from ownership of material object <real physical property>." > § 1201. Circumvention of copyright protection systems2 > (a) Violations Regarding Circumvention of Technological Measures. — > (1) (A) No person shall circumvent a technological measure that > effectively controls access to a work protected under this title. The > prohibition contained in the preceding sentence shall take effect at > the end of the 2-year period beginning on the date of the enactment > of this chapter. > > 3) As used in this subsection — > > (A) to “circumvent a technological measure” means to descramble a > scrambled work, to decrypt an encrypted work, or otherwise to avoid, > bypass, remove, deactivate, or impair a technological measure, without > the authority of the copyright owner; and > > (B) a technological measure “effectively controls access to a work” if > the measure, in the ordinary course of its operation, requires the > application of information, or a process or a treatment, with the > authority of the copyright owner, to gain access to the work. > > Your little "Microscum" website that you claim to be parody, But, in > fact, describes a method to circumvent WPA is illegal. (c) Other Rights, Etc., Not Affected. - (1) Nothing in this section shall affect rights, remedies, limitations, or defenses to copyright infringement, including fair use, under this title. - http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/1201.html LOL! Which brings us right back to the "limitation" Congress placed on computer copyright owners, Title 17 Chapter 1 Section 117. http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/117.html ROFL! I've been down this road before with others. Besides which, I think my 1st Amendment Rights would trump the DMCA, if MS ever tried to invoke the DMCA to get my page removed. And a Princeton grad-student just was threaten with the DMCA for posting information about circumventing a type of CD copy-protection made by SunnComm Technologies, but SunnComm decided not to peruse a losing cause. http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-5089448.html > > But, then, I know you're going to try to twist and re-intuetrept to > your satisfaction. > > Source: http://www.copyright.gov/title17/ Twist? I don't have to twist anything, as the law is on my side! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! -- Peace! Kurt Self-anointed Moderator microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea http://microscum.com "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron! "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"