"Ignoramus20562" <ignoramus20562@NOSPAM.20562.invalid> wrote in message news:c3uuqo$3fl$7@pita.alt.net...
> In article <c3uud4$7o3$1@kermit.esat.net>, pearl wrote:
> > "Ignoramus20562" <ignoramus20562@NOSPAM.20562.invalid> wrote in message news:c3uqo6$3fl$2@pita.alt.net...
> >> In article <c3ukd4$4r1$1@kermit.esat.net>, pearl wrote:
> >> > Diet Linked To Non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma
> >> > Meat, Saturated Fat, Dairy May Raise Risk
> >> > By Daniel DeNoon
> >> > Reviewed By Brunilda Nazario, MD
> >> > WebMD Medical News
> >> > 3-24-4
> >> > ..
> >> >
> >> > "What we found is if a person has a higher intake of animal protein,
> >> > they will have a higher risk of non-Hodgkin's lymphoma," Zheng tells
> >> > Web. "And people who have a higher intake of saturated fat have
> >> > an increased risk. On the other hand, if you have higher-than-average
> >> > intake of dietary fiber -- particularly if you frequently eat vegetables
> >> > and fruits with a high fiber content -- you have a reduced risk of
> >> > non-Hodgkin's lymphoma."
> >>
> >> How about those who eat a lot of vegetables (3-4 lbs per day) and a
> >> lot of meat also. What are the findings regarding those people?
> >
> > "What we found is if a person has a higher intake of animal protein,
> > they will have a higher risk of non-Hodgkin's lymphoma,"
>
> But a correlation does not imply causation. "When does correlation imply causation?" The short answer is:
When the data from which the correlation was computed were
obtained by experimental means with appropriate care to avoid
confounding and other threats to the internal validity of the
experiment."
http://core.ecu.edu/psyc/wuenschk/St...-Causation.htm
> >> > A high-fat diet may indeed be linked to higher body weight.
> >> > But Zheng says that people eating low-carb diets may also
> >> > be at risk of non-Hodgkin's lymphoma if they eat too much
> >> > meat and too few vegetables.
> >>
> >> merely a speculation at this point with no basis.
> >
> > Your basis is this and other studies.
>
> correlation is not causation, that's why I said that making
> suggestions on the basis of correlation is not proper. "When does correlation imply causation?" The short answer is:
When the data from which the correlation was computed were
obtained by experimental means with appropriate care to avoid
confounding and other threats to the internal validity of the
experiment."
http://core.ecu.edu/psyc/wuenschk/St...-Causation.htm '.. It comes from a study of 601 Connecticut women with
non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. Tongzhang Zheng, ScD, head
of the division of environmental health sciences at the Yale
School of Public Health in New Haven, Conn., collected
detailed dietary information from these women and from
717 similar women without cancer.
"What we found is if a person has a higher intake of animal
protein, they will have a higher risk of non-Hodgkin's
lymphoma, " Zheng tells Web. "And people who have a
higher intake of saturated fat have an increased risk. On the
other hand, if you have higher-than-average intake of dietary
fiber -- particularly if you frequently eat vegetables and fruits
with a high fiber content -- you have a reduced risk of
non-Hodgkin's lymphoma."
The findings appear in the March 1 issue of the American
Journal of Epidemiology.
Earlier studies hinted at the same thing. Now, Zheng says,
it seems clear that a major factor in the mysterious rise of
non-Hodgkin's lymphoma is a diet high in meat, saturated
fats, dairy products, and eggs and low in fiber, fruits, and
vegetables. '
http://my.webmd.com/content/Article/...?printing=true
> >> That adiposity, high blood sugars etc, cause cancer, is well known.
> >>
> >> That meat has a direct effect, is not at all clear from this
> >> correlation study.
> >
> > Apparently, it is clear.
> >
> >> > One thing that's known about non-Hodgkin's lymphoma is
> >> > that people whose immune systems aren't working well --
> >> > such as AIDS patients -- are at increased risk. Zheng
> >> > suggests that immune function depends on proper nutrition.
> >>
> >> no kidding!
> >>
> >> > "Your body is designed to repair things," Zheng says. "But
> >> > if your body is not getting proper nutrition, how can the
> >> > immune system continue to function? Everything relates to
> >> > the nutrients in your dietary intake."
> >> >
> >> > Cancer-Fighting Foods
> >> >
> >> > Zheng's study showed that people who ate more of certain
> >> > foods tended to have a lower risk of non-Hodgkin's lymphoma.
> >> > Those foods include:
> >> >
> >> > Tomatoes
> >> > Broccoli
> >> > Squash
> >> > Cauliflower
> >> > Onions
> >> > Mixed lettuce salad
> >> > Leeks
> >> > Apples
> >> > Pears
> >> > Citrus fruits
> >>
> >> I do not think that these products and meat are mutually
> >> exclusive. I eat a few pounds of that stuff per day, and a lot of
> >> meat. That, based on common sense, is the healthiest diet.
> >
> > That's not common sense, and based on research, it isn't.
>
> more empty phrases. Projection.