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03-25-2004, 08:45 AM

In article <c3uud4$7o3$1@kermit.esat.net>, pearl wrote:
> "Ignoramus20562" <ignoramus20562@NOSPAM.20562.invalid> wrote in message news:c3uqo6$3fl$2@pita.alt.net...
>> In article <c3ukd4$4r1$1@kermit.esat.net>, pearl wrote:
>> > Diet Linked To Non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma
>> > Meat, Saturated Fat, Dairy May Raise Risk
>> > By Daniel DeNoon
>> > Reviewed By Brunilda Nazario, MD
>> > WebMD Medical News
>> > 3-24-4
>> > ..
>> >
>> > "What we found is if a person has a higher intake of animal protein,
>> > they will have a higher risk of non-Hodgkin's lymphoma," Zheng tells
>> > Web. "And people who have a higher intake of saturated fat have
>> > an increased risk. On the other hand, if you have higher-than-average
>> > intake of dietary fiber -- particularly if you frequently eat vegetables
>> > and fruits with a high fiber content -- you have a reduced risk of
>> > non-Hodgkin's lymphoma."
>>
>> How about those who eat a lot of vegetables (3-4 lbs per day) and a
>> lot of meat also. What are the findings regarding those people?
>
> "What we found is if a person has a higher intake of animal protein,
> they will have a higher risk of non-Hodgkin's lymphoma,"

But a correlation does not imply causation.

>> > A high-fat diet may indeed be linked to higher body weight.
>> > But Zheng says that people eating low-carb diets may also
>> > be at risk of non-Hodgkin's lymphoma if they eat too much
>> > meat and too few vegetables.
>>
>> merely a speculation at this point with no basis.
>
> Your basis is this and other studies.

correlation is not causation, that's why I said that making
suggestions on the basis of correlation is not proper.

>> That adiposity, high blood sugars etc, cause cancer, is well known.
>>
>> That meat has a direct effect, is not at all clear from this
>> correlation study.
>
> Apparently, it is clear.
>
>> > One thing that's known about non-Hodgkin's lymphoma is
>> > that people whose immune systems aren't working well --
>> > such as AIDS patients -- are at increased risk. Zheng
>> > suggests that immune function depends on proper nutrition.
>>
>> no kidding!
>>
>> > "Your body is designed to repair things," Zheng says. "But
>> > if your body is not getting proper nutrition, how can the
>> > immune system continue to function? Everything relates to
>> > the nutrients in your dietary intake."
>> >
>> > Cancer-Fighting Foods
>> >
>> > Zheng's study showed that people who ate more of certain
>> > foods tended to have a lower risk of non-Hodgkin's lymphoma.
>> > Those foods include:
>> >
>> > Tomatoes
>> > Broccoli
>> > Squash
>> > Cauliflower
>> > Onions
>> > Mixed lettuce salad
>> > Leeks
>> > Apples
>> > Pears
>> > Citrus fruits
>>
>> I do not think that these products and meat are mutually
>> exclusive. I eat a few pounds of that stuff per day, and a lot of
>> meat. That, based on common sense, is the healthiest diet.
>
> That's not common sense, and based on research, it isn't.

more empty phrases.

03-25-2004, 08:45 AM	#10
Ignoramus20562 Posts: n/a	Re: Diet Linked To Non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma In article <c3uud4$7o3$1@kermit.esat.net>, pearl wrote: > "Ignoramus20562" <ignoramus20562@NOSPAM.20562.invalid> wrote in message news:c3uqo6$3fl$2@pita.alt.net... >> In article <c3ukd4$4r1$1@kermit.esat.net>, pearl wrote: >> > Diet Linked To Non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma >> > Meat, Saturated Fat, Dairy May Raise Risk >> > By Daniel DeNoon >> > Reviewed By Brunilda Nazario, MD >> > WebMD Medical News >> > 3-24-4 >> > .. >> > >> > "What we found is if a person has a higher intake of animal protein, >> > they will have a higher risk of non-Hodgkin's lymphoma," Zheng tells >> > Web. "And people who have a higher intake of saturated fat have >> > an increased risk. On the other hand, if you have higher-than-average >> > intake of dietary fiber -- particularly if you frequently eat vegetables >> > and fruits with a high fiber content -- you have a reduced risk of >> > non-Hodgkin's lymphoma." >> >> How about those who eat a lot of vegetables (3-4 lbs per day) and a >> lot of meat also. What are the findings regarding those people? > > "What we found is if a person has a higher intake of animal protein, > they will have a higher risk of non-Hodgkin's lymphoma," But a correlation does not imply causation. >> > A high-fat diet may indeed be linked to higher body weight. >> > But Zheng says that people eating low-carb diets may also >> > be at risk of non-Hodgkin's lymphoma if they eat too much >> > meat and too few vegetables. >> >> merely a speculation at this point with no basis. > > Your basis is this and other studies. correlation is not causation, that's why I said that making suggestions on the basis of correlation is not proper. >> That adiposity, high blood sugars etc, cause cancer, is well known. >> >> That meat has a direct effect, is not at all clear from this >> correlation study. > > Apparently, it is clear. > >> > One thing that's known about non-Hodgkin's lymphoma is >> > that people whose immune systems aren't working well -- >> > such as AIDS patients -- are at increased risk. Zheng >> > suggests that immune function depends on proper nutrition. >> >> no kidding! >> >> > "Your body is designed to repair things," Zheng says. "But >> > if your body is not getting proper nutrition, how can the >> > immune system continue to function? Everything relates to >> > the nutrients in your dietary intake." >> > >> > Cancer-Fighting Foods >> > >> > Zheng's study showed that people who ate more of certain >> > foods tended to have a lower risk of non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. >> > Those foods include: >> > >> > Tomatoes >> > Broccoli >> > Squash >> > Cauliflower >> > Onions >> > Mixed lettuce salad >> > Leeks >> > Apples >> > Pears >> > Citrus fruits >> >> I do not think that these products and meat are mutually >> exclusive. I eat a few pounds of that stuff per day, and a lot of >> meat. That, based on common sense, is the healthiest diet. > > That's not common sense, and based on research, it isn't. more empty phrases.